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 06-07-2006, 00:02 Post: 130574
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After awhile, one develops a "feel" for the right torque, if performed often enough.

It is difficult to tell someone how tight is tight, vs., nice job ace...you just stripped the threads!

I have always been a believer that, "tight is tight, over tight is broken".

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 06-07-2006, 08:09 Post: 130591
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"Feelings...wo wo wo Feeeeeelings....."

Good point! Laughing out loud

Kt,
yea, I know, the proper terminology would be 'stripped', but I learned it from being a wee little thing, in my dad's shop ~ as I used a hammer and screw driver to disect my matchbox cars (Laughing out loud) many moons ago. I would not have been able to comprehend 'stripped' at that age, so next best thing - 'broke'.

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 06-07-2006, 08:40 Post: 130594
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...the singing ALWAYS sounds good on paper. Laughing out loud

When I try to sing in the shower, the water runs backwards!

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 06-07-2006, 10:30 Post: 130600
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DenisS -

Although the plastic seal/washer probably will work in many if not most applications, I had an ugly experience with it.

I had a 6 cylinder, that for whatever reason, decided to run hot. It ran so hot (not the coolant, rather the oil), that it baked the paint and alligatored the paint on the oil pan. All of a sudden I realized a leak of oil - actually smelt it as I was driving down the highway, sealing the roadway and everyone behind me, with oil.

Apparently, the plastic seal melted, and because there now was no tightening pressure to secure the oil plug, the plug fell out. Needless to say, the rest of the story wasn't exactly cheap.

A similar incident happened to me from an oil filter seal. The oil filter backed off the stud causing a leak by. Fortunately for me this time, I caught it in time and saved it. One might consider that the oil had just been changed, and the elements in question were not properly secured from the gitgo. But, that was not the case, as it was about 2000 miles into the oil change when it happened.

Many manufacturer's today, have either a plastic, brass, or copper washer as a compression seal, or as you pointed out, an aluminum washer seal. I have never had an issue with my I/O seal, or tractor seals letting loose (knock on my wood hard head, Laughing out loud). Just the six cylinder Ford, and I won't soon forget that experience.

I guess I am in the lower percentile....

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 06-08-2006, 08:28 Post: 130632
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kt -
You know, now that you have me thinking about that, the new pan was not painted, but the original from Ford that had never been changed was - it was painted black.

I can remember that Ford had an "issue" with the oil pans from this vintage, as when I went to replace it (thinking I'll have to order one at best - no one will have any on the shelves), the local Ford dealer remarked we have 17 on the shelf.
The newer ones were of heavier gage steel, as well as a different seal design. Wandering abit from topic here, but ya got the noodle thinkin' !

Definitely was painted black, vs new plain Jane.

BillyP - teflon, that was the word I was thinking of - not plastic ~ thanks.

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